None got this point clear, about Melchizedek?

Hebrews ch 7:


About him its written:


1This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High


3Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever (therefore he is not a ordinary guy, nor someone to be neglected)


4Just think how GREAT he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder!


11If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come—one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? (perfection thru this melchizedek, Jesus became the High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek)





If so - This is the HolySpirit talked about i believe. But is there any more explanations.? do you agree?











http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;…None got this point clear, about Melchizedek?
How was it true that Melchizedek had ‘neither beginning of days nor end of life’?





Paul isolated an outstanding fact respecting Melchizedek, in saying of him: “In being fatherless, motherless, without genealogy, having neither a beginning of days nor an end of life, but having been made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually.” (Heb 7:3) Like other humans, Melchizedek was born and he died. However, the names of his father and mother are not furnished, his ancestry and posterity are not disclosed, and the Scriptures contain no information about the beginning of his days or the end of his life. Thus, Melchizedek could fittingly foreshadow Jesus Christ, who has an unending priesthood. As Melchizedek had no recorded predecessor or successor in his priesthood, so too Christ was preceded by no high priest similar to himself, and the Bible shows that none will ever succeed him. Furthermore, although Jesus was born in the tribe of Judah and in the kingly line of David, his fleshly ancestry had no bearing on his priesthood, nor was it by virtue of human ancestry that the offices of both priest and king were combined in him. These things were as a result of Jehovah’s own oath to him.





A view that appears in the Targums of Jerusalem and of Jonathan and that has gained wide acceptance among the Jews and others is that Melchizedek was Noah’s son Shem. Shem was then alive and even outlived Abraham’s wife Sarah. Also, Noah specifically blessed Shem. (Ge 9:26, 27) But this identification has not been confirmed. The fact remains that Melchizedek’s nationality, genealogy, and offspring are left undisclosed in the Scriptures, and that with good reason, for he could thus typify Jesus Christ, who by Jehovah’s sworn oath “has become a high priest according to the manner of Melchizedek forever.”—Heb 6:20.None got this point clear, about Melchizedek?
Considering some of the answers on here,I don't believe some of you believe God's word is pure.


I have no doubt that Satan himself is in the Bible Universities.I know from some of the twisted statements being posted.
an archetype of Jesus





Μελχισέδεκ Transliteration


Melchisedek


Pronunciation





mel-khē-se'-dek (Key)





Part of Speech


proper masculine noun





Root Word (Etymology)





of Hebrew origin H4442





TDNT Reference


4:568,*








Outline of Biblical Usage Melchizedek = ';king of righteousness';





1) the king of Salem and priest of the most high God, who lived in the days of Abraham
';So too the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but [was glorified by him] who spoke with reference to him: “You are my son; I, today, I have become your father.” Just as he says also in another place: “You are a priest forever *according to the manner of Mel·chiz′e·dek*... because he has been specifically *called by God a high priest according to the manner of Mel·chiz′e·dek*.'; --Heb 5:5,6,10





The ';manner of Melchizedek'; refers to the fact that Melchizedek was both a King (of ancient Salem) and “priest of the Most High God”. (Ge 14:18, 22)





Melchizedek is the very first priest mentioned in the Scriptures, occupying that position sometime prior to 1933 B.C.E.





Melchizedek is identified as “King of Peace” (Salem means “Peace) and as “King of Righteousness, on the basis of his name ('Melchizedek' means, 'King of Righteousness'). (Heb 7:1, 2) Ancient Salem is understood to have been the nucleus of the later city of Jerusalem, the capital city of Israel...





Melchizedek was a normal man, but must have been an exemplary follower of God! Being both king %26amp; priest --the very first priest!-- was representative of the authority that the Christ would come to have, in God's heavenly kingdom.





In a notable Messianic prophecy the sworn oath of God to David’s “Lord” [the Christ] is: “You are a priest to time indefinite according to the manner of Melchizedek!” (Ps 110:1, 4) This inspired psalm gave the Hebrews reason to regard the promised Messiah as the one in whom the office of priest and king would be combined. The apostle Paul, in the letter to the Hebrews, removed any doubt about the identity of the one foretold, speaking of “Jesus, who has become a high priest according to the manner of Melchizedek forever.”—Heb 6:20; 5:10 **





Notice, it says that *Jesus* becomes high priest... forever, not Melchizedek. The fact that Melchizedek's personal details are not reported amplifies the important aspects of his life, which represented the Christ.





Melchizedek did not have the authority of the Christ, nor even perfection. Thus, he could not have provided the ransom sacrifice necessary to repurchase mankind. But Jesus has both those things. It was even through him that we were created by God in the first place:





';He is the image of the invisible God, the *first*born of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created, in the heavens and upon the earth...'; --Colossians 1:15,16





(This is not about the holy spirit.)
This is a recent question minutes ago huh.





alright, Since it is the old testament one must take it into context, one thing is that the story of melchizedek might not be a litteral account, while there are some christians out there that think the bible is all verbatum litteral, There are many that do not, such as the proffessors of religious studies at my university.





So I am saying that the story of Melchizedek might be an allagory, or a symbolic story about a king that may have existed in realty, that might have indeed gave thanks to the God of the Jewish people, but some of the details could have been muddied over the years before the old testament was a written work, remember in oral stories they can change even a little bit over a short amount of time with only a few retellings.





for example get a group and play teliphone say something to some one then have them repeat it to another till they get to the end and the person on the other end says what they heard out loud. Most often it never resembles what was origianly said.





Also keep in mind that some say Abraham might have been bassed on several people during the early days of judiism, Abraham means father of a great many and from that many came the tribes that formed the jewish nation but, remember things dont happen over night and the comeing of the jewish nation might have slowly came to being as it would take time for 12 tribes to propogate and grow like a plant,which takes time to grow from a seed to a mighty crop that yields much fruit.





So my bottom line is take the book into context as an oral history of the jewish nation, and that it may be a litteral account or it might be a bit more on the symbolic side of what really happened.
my thoughts are it was meant to be Jesus being that He is the king of peace(Salem) and our High priest and remains a priest forever...God Bless and happy holidays
We, as Christians, are all priests after the order of Melchizedek:


Heb 5:6 -


As he saith also in another place - Psa_110:4. “Thou art a priest forever.” It is evident here that the apostle means to be understood as saying that the Psalm referred to Christ, and this is one of the instances of quotation from the Old Testament respecting which there can be no doubt. Paul makes much of this argument in a subsequent part of this Epistle, Heb. 7 and reasons as if no one would deny that the Psalm had a reference to the Messiah. It is clear from this that the Psalm was understood by the Jews at that time to have such a reference, and that it was so universally admitted that no one would call it in question. That the Psalm refers to the Messiah has been the opinion of nearly all Christian commentators, and has been admitted by the Jewish Rabbis in general also. The “evidence” that it refers to the Messiah is such as the following:


(1) It is a Psalm of David, and yet is spoken of one who was superior to him, and whom he calls his “Lord;” Heb_5:1.


(2) it cannot be referred to Jehovah himself, for he is expressly Heb_5:1 distinguished from him who is here addressed.


(3) it cannot be referred to anyone in the time of David, for there was no one to whom he would attribute this character of superiority but God.


(4) for the same reason there was no one among his posterity, except the Messiah, to whom he would apply this language.


(5) IT IS EXPRESSLY ASCRIBED BY THE LORD JESUS TO HIMSELF; Mat_22:43-44.


(6) the scope of the Psalm is such as to be applicable to the Messiah, and there is no part of it which would be inconsistent with such a reference. Indeed, there is no passage of the Old Testament of which it would be more universally conceded that there was a reference to the Messiah, than this Psalm.


Thou art a priest - He is not here called a “high priest,” for Melchizedek did not bear that title, nor was the Lord Jesus to be a high priest exactly in the sense in which the name was given to Aaron and his successors. A word is used, therefore, in a general sense to denote that he would be a “priest” simply, or would sustain the priestly office. This was all that was needful to the present argument which was, that he was “designated by God” to the priestly office, and that he had not intruded himself into it.


For ever - This was an important circumstance, of which the apostle makes much use in another part of the Epistle; see the notes at Heb_7:8, Heb_7:23-24. The priesthood of the Messiah was not to change from hand to hand; it was not to be laid down at death; it was to remain unchangeably the same.


After the order - The word rendered “order” - τάξις taxis - means “a setting in order - hence, “arrangement” or “disposition.” It may be applied to ranks of soldiers; to the gradations of office; or to any rank which men sustain in society. To say that he was of the same “order” with Melchizedek, was to say that he was of the same “rank” or “stations.” He was like him in his designation to the office. In what respects he was like him the apostle shows more fully in Heb. 7. “One” particular in which there was a striking resemblance, which did not exist between Christ and any other high priest, was, that Melchizedek was both a “priest” and a “king.” None of the kings of the Jews were priests; nor were any of the priests ever elevated to the office of king. But in Melchizedek these offices were united, and this fact constituted a striking resemblance between him and the Lord Jesus. It was on this principle that there was such pertinency in quoting here the passage from the second Psalm; see Heb_5:5. The meaning is, that Melchizedek was of a special rank or order; that he was not numbered with the Levitical priests, and that there were important features in his office which differed from theirs.





Heb 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.


Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,


Heb 2:12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.





Jesus Christ IS Melchizedek (Matt. 22: 43-44) and in Hebrews 2:11 He calls us ';brethren';, therefore, we, as Christians, are ALL priests after the order of Melchizedek.
I'm not sure what you are asking, but if it says the Son of God are you sure its not referring to Jesus? I'm not too familiar with this passage. I'm in Corinthians at the moment, but i love Hebrews.





I'm guessing if it says he will remain a priest forever, than he will be a priest in the new heaven and earth that is created after the destruction of this one
there was one show on TBN that suggested one of Noahs sons


was Melchizedek i forget the exact path he took to get to that...





regardless...





ALL that matters now is Christ Jesus.....
I agree with Don S's answer.
I suspect that in in the Old Testament book of Genesis story, Melchizedek is a real king and priest to El Elyon (God Most High). He befriended and consorted with Abram (to become Abraham) when Abram was a renegade of sorts, doing battle with his (and His) enemies.


In the book of Hebrews, I believe that Melchizedek is presented as a ';type of Christ';, a allegorical demonstration of the transition from Levitical priesthood to the kingly priesthood of Christ Jesus.
I don't believe any of us can say who this is with certainty.I have always thought it to be Jesus.Jesus is our High Priest.


Psalms 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.


Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.





The same with the three men that Abraham spoke with, who were headed to Sodom and Gomorrah, ( Genesis 18 ). Jesus makes mention of this when speaking to the Pharisees


John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.


John 8:57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?


John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
The question is vague.
Disagree! This is not my thoughts but it is stated in the bible.





Melchizedek was a regular man that was a high priest. He had to give gifts and sacrafices for sins. Jesus was a high priest but was perfect and performed all of the five fold ministries of the body of christ in Ephisans 4: 11 He was the sacrificial lamb that boar all of our sins: past, present and future. Melchizedek could not be at Jesus level or above. Melchizedek was known as Shem (read the book of Jasher; chapter 16). The holy spirit could not come until Jesus rose from the dead Luke 24: 44 - 49.





You need to read Hebrews 5: 1 - 11, Hebrews 7: 15 - 16 and Hebrews 8: 1 - 6





1For every high priest taken from among men is appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins. 2He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness. 3Because of this he is required as for the people, so also for himself, to offer sacrifices for sins. 4And no man takes this honor to himself, but he who is called by God, just as Aaron was. 5So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.”


6As He also says in another place: “You are a priest forever


According to the order of Melchizedek”; 7who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, 8though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 9And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, 10called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek,” 11of whom we have much to say, and hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.





It states, that he is like the son of God. He is a type and shadow of Jesus, just like Moses was a type and shadow of Jesus. Moses brought the law under the old covenant and Jesus full filled the law at the cross for thoses who believe in him and established a new covenant.





Hebrews 7: 15 - 16


15And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life.





Hebrews 8: 1 - 6


1Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2a Minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle which the Lord erected, and not man. 3For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. Therefore it is necessary that this One also have something to offer. 4For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law; 5who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” 6But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.








You need to read the book of Jasher to understand who is Melchizedek. It states in the book of Joshua 10: 12-14 and 2 Samuel 1:17-18, that it is written in the book of Jasher. It is mentioned twice which is adequate wittiness.





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